Entropy loss

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bram (bram@gawth.com)
Thu, 16 Jul 1998 01:09:11 -0700 (PDT)


On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, John Kelsey wrote:

> Right. I will raise one point with this scheme, though: You
> actually lose a small amount of entropy here, since you can't use the
> output from this to go back to the input. I don't see this as being
> important with any real buffer size, but it's at least a theoretical
> complaint.

This raises an issue I've been wondering about for a while: how much
entropy is lost by recursive hashing? I gather that the number of possible
resulting values is about half after the first hashing, and less after the
second, but tends to hit a plateau after a couple of rounds as the chances
of a collision among the remaining possible values diminishes. Is this
correct?

-Bram


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