fwd: Re: RC5/6 patents

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Lewis McCarthy (lmccarth@cs.umass.edu)
Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:45:23 -0400


The message below didn't go out to CodherPlunks earlier because the list
was hosed for a few hours. So I'm *forwarding* it now.
(Thanks to Hugh Daniel for fixing the problem with the list.)

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 Subject: Re: RC5/6 patents
 Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 15:52:58 -0400
 From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>
 To: Bob Baldwin <baldwin@rsa.com>
 CC: CodherPlunks@toad.com
 
 Bob Baldwin writes:
> It seems like I hit the RSA-bashing
> nerve :-) It is a pretty big nerve ending and
> hard to miss. Sigh.
 
 Some of us have been burned in the past and don't want to be burned
 again.
 
> My understanding of RSADSI's intent is that
> if RC6 is selected as the AES, then any use of it
> will be OK without payment to RSADSI.
 
 So you are saying that the intent is, in fact, that novel modes and
 uses would be okay without license or payment -- whether mentioned in
 the FIPS or not?
 
 You do realize that this partially contradicts your previous statement
 that:
 
> > > Similarly, if the RC6 cipher is used in modes that are
> > > not covered by the FIPS, then implementations of those
> > > modes could be subject to patent enforcement. For example,
> > > if the modes do not cover building a digest function out
> > > of AES, then the winner will does not need to give up rights
> > > to AES as the basis for a digest function.
 
 I would suggest that if you want to make people non-nervous, that you
 make sure that you have one, and only one, statement out, which
 completely clarifies your intent and is airtight.
 
 Perry

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