Re: The Cost of Snakeoil (was Re: John Gilmore and the Great Internet Snake Drive)

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Robert Hettinga (rah@shipwright.com)
Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:18:55 -0400


At 7:17 PM -0400 on 7/20/98, Xcott Craver wrote:

> Maybe if you say "single-DES" instead of DES; the terminology is
> starting to confuse me.

It's a quibble as far as I'm concerned. DES is DES and 3DES is 3DES. They
have way different cryptanalytic outcomes. One can be brute forced for 600
bucks. The other can not be brute forced at all. So far.

> Single-DES implmentations are certainly
> snakeoil if sold as "strong" or "military grade" or whatever
> superlatives marketers toss upon these things.

Which is my point.

It's an ex-protocol. Pining for the fjords or not.

Cheers,
Bob Hettinga
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