Re: Crypto Coding Project

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William H. Geiger III (whgiii@openpgp.net)
Tue, 18 Aug 1998 22:40:49 -0500


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In <199808190201.TAA09282@toad.com>, on 08/18/98
   at 09:01 PM, Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li> said:

>>I'd love to see this idea (whose time has come, really) come to frutation.
>>If we could make a distributed and secure alternative to IRC, I'm sure it'd
>>be widely-used.

>Why re-invent the wheel?

>Why not piggy-back off the existing (and substantial) IRC network? If
>the crypto is end to end then what's it matter what network you're on?
>Might as well leverage existing systems. IRC could be made more secure,
>and its authentication problems could finally be solved if only we had a
>decent client to use.

>Of course, something along the lines of ICQ using TCP/IP and
>encrypted/authenticated would make me salivate just as much, but it
>strikes me that you're much more likely to get participants if you work
>off the IRC network.

>Hint: If you REALLY want it to work and gather thousands of users in
>about a weeks time, make sure that IRC style DCC file transfers
>(encrypted of course) are easy to arrange.

I have been prototyping an Encrypted IRC making use of IRC scripts and pgp
binaries. Not the most efficient way to do it but my goal was to come up
with an easy to implement standard that could be used with off the shelf
IRC clients and encryption products.

Curently I am using PGP signatures for nick authentication, and then just
using a shared passphrase and pgp's conventional encryption option for the
channel's encryption.

Haven't got all the bugs worked out yet and there are still some
unresolved issues involved but it does work. Performance is not very good
and this set-up is not well suited to a large channel but works fine on a
channel with a small group of users or for private one to one
conversations.

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