Re: reflecting on RC4

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John Kelsey (kelsey@plnet.net)
Wed, 17 Feb 1999 06:35:35 -0600


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[ To: CodherPlunks ## Date: 02/17/99 ##
  Subject: reflecting on RC4 ]

>Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:21:45 -0800
>To: CodherPlunks@toad.com
>From: Alex Alten <Alten@Home.Com>
>Subject: reflecting on RC4

>Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't RC4's strength drop to
>a maximum of 16 bits with a chosen plaintext attack? The
>chosen plaintext would be the first 256 bytes enciphered.

Hmmm. RC4 is a keystream generator. You give it a key, it
sets up and starts cranking out random-looking bytes. A
chosen-plaintext attack on such a system is equivalent to a
known-plaintext attack. So no, I don't think there is any
such attack. But if there is, I'd sure like to see it.

Is it possible you're thinking of some variant of RC4 with
ciphertext or plaintext feedback? I've seen such variants
proposed, and they're generally *very* weak. There's just
not enough stuff going on in RC4 to give you any protection
once you start letting an attacker choose inputs to
manipulate your RC4 byte permutation state. (This whole
thing leads me to suspect that it ought to be cheaper to run
a block cipher in a stream-ciphering mode than to run it in
a normal block ciphering mode. It just ought to take fewer
rounds when you only have to worry about known-plaintext
attacks, if even those.)

>- Alex

- --John Kelsey, kelsey@counterpane.com / kelsey@plnet.net
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