Getting around Chaum's patents.

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James A. Donald (jamesd@echeque.com)
Tue, 9 Mar 1999 20:27:46 -0500


At 01:06 AM 3/8/99 -0800, Wei Dai wrote:
> I'll try to stop answering my own posts, but apparently David Wagner did
> propose a blind MAC scheme (see
> http://x9.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=145097228) based on Diffie-Hellman.
> This also answers the original Anonymous request for a blind variant of
> something not covered by patents. T

A third party cannot determine that the token is bank issue except by
asking the bank, therefore the token is not a signature, therefore it is
not a blind signature, therefore seemingly not covered by Chaum's patent.

Is there a lawyer in the house?

Chaum clearly patented the concept of blinding signatures by any means
whatsoever, and clearly patented the use of any kind of blinded signatures
to implement unlinkable tokens. None of this seems relevant to David
Wagner's scheme.

Is there any plausible argument that David Wagner's scheme is covered by
Chaum's patent?
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