Re: "move" tool

["avp cad ru" <avp cad ru>]

Lars Clausen пишет:
> Now we need to be clear on what we're calling what.  The suggestions are
> 
> 1) Change the icon (that is, the picture shown in the toolbox) to a hand
>    icon, like in Acrobat Reader and others.  This should work
>    internationally because of the metaphor used in the pointer of grabbing
>    the diagram and moving it around.
> 
> 2) Change the name of the tool, as seen in the tooltip and the Tools menu,
>    from "Scroll" to "Hand" or "Pan".  This would be translated into the
>    appropriate word for scrolling around (resp. using the hand or panning)
>    in pt_BR.
> 
> We don't want to change the icon to look like a scroll.
> 
> You bring up an interesting side-point, though, that one would think that a
> Hand tool can grab objects as well.  That would make some sense, but I also
> think there's a lot of value in not having to change tool all the time
> while fiddling with layout.

I've never seen Adobe Illustrator or QuarkXPress grabbing objects with a 
Hand tool :-)

What I was talking about is panning/grabbing paper only. 1 + 2 (Pan) 
works for me

Alexandre